Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee

Comité de l’agriculture et des questions rurales

 

MINUTES 25 / PROCÈS-VERBAL 25

 

Thursday, 12 June 2008, 7:00 p.m.

le jeudi 12 juin 2008, 19 h

 

Alfred Taylor Centre, 2300 Community Way, North Gower

Centre Alfred Taylor, 2300, rue Community Way, North Gower

 

 

 

Present / Présent :     Councillors / conseillers R. Jellett (Chair / Président), D. Thompson
(Vice-Chair / Vice-président), G. Brooks, E. El-Chantiry, J. Harder,
G. Hunter, B. Monette

 

 

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

DÉCLARATIONS D’INTÉRÊT      

 

No declarations of interest were filed.

 

 

CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES
Ratification des procÈs-verbaux

 

Minutes 24 of the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee meeting of Thursday, May 22, 2008 were confirmed.

 


STATEMENT REQUIRED FOR ZONING
APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED FOR POST JANUARY 1, 2007

DÉCLARATION POUR LES DEMANDES DE MODIFICATION
DE ZONAGE PRÉSENTÉES APRÈS LE 1ER JANVIER 2007

 

At the start of the meeting, Chair Jellett read the statement required under the Planning Act, which advised anyone intending to appeal the proposed Zoning By-law Amendments listed as Item 1 to 3 must either voice their objections at the public meeting or submit their comments in writing prior to the amendments being adopted by City Council on June 25, 2008.  Failure to do so could result in refusal/dismissal of the appeal(s) by the Ontario Municipal Board (OMB).

 

 

Planning, Transit and the Environment

Urbanisme, Transport en commun et Environnement

 

Development Approvals

Approbation des demandes d'aménagement

 

1.         ZONING - 119 Langstaff drive

ZONAGE - 119, Promenade langstaff

            ACS2008-PTE-PLA-0080                                               West Carleton-March (5)

 

(This application is subject to Bill 51)

 

Email correspondence from Murray Stonebridge dated June 9, 2008 was received and is held on file with the City Clerk.

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend Council:

 

1.   Approve an amendment to the former Township of West Carleton Zoning By-law to change the zoning of 119 Langstaff Drive from Institutional Type 1 (I1) and Residential Type 5 Exception Holding (R5-1(h)) to General Commercial Exception 6 (C-6) as detailed in Document 2 and shown in Document 3.

 

2.   Approve an amendment to the New Comprehensive Zoning By-law to change the zoning of 119 Langstaff Drive from Rural Institutional (RI) and Village Residential Third Density (V3B) to a Rural Institutional Exception zone (RI[xxxxr]), as detailed in Document 2 and as shown in Document 3.

 

                                                                                                            CARRIED

 

 

2.         zoNING - 5599 First Line Road

zonage - 5599, chemin first line

acs2008-pte-pla-0125                                                    Rideau-Goulbourn (21)

 

(This application is not subject to Bill 51)

 

Grant Lindsay, Manager of Development Approvals, referred to the PowerPoint presentation and briefly provided the Committee with an overview of the staff report.  A copy of the presentation is held on file with the City Clerk.

 

Mr. Lindsay summarized that this application is to facilitate the development of a future plan of a sub-division, which is part of the Manotick Special Design Area.  The main points of his presentation were as follows:

 

·  The specific village residential zone (RV) has a minimum area lot 1950 square metres, which is standard and typical for the plans that have been provided in the special design area. 

·  The Village Residential Exception 32 zone (RV-32) has minimum lot widths of 20 metres with no septic systems or oil storage are permitted within 30 metres of the environmental protection lands along the First Line Road. 

·  The adjacent lands to the north and south will link into this sub-division and will develop over a number of years.

·  All landowners are working together to deal with common development issues, such as stormwater management and traffic management. 

·  The approval of this zoning by-law will facilitate the implementation of the sub-division approval.

 

Noel Norenius, Manotick Community Association, asked the Committee to reaffirm that the environmentally sensitive lands and protected lands along Mud Creek will be reserved for a pathway.  He had been assured that it was part of the original concept plan and wanted to confirm that it was still part of the plan.

 

Mr. Lindsay responded that the pathway was part of the discussion in dealing with the concept plan for the area and reported that it is the City’s intent that a pathway be constructed along Mud Creek, which will link into two proposed pedestrian crossings.

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend Council:

 

1.   Approve an amendment to the former Township of Rideau Zoning By-law to change the zoning of 5599 First Line Road from "A1" (Restricted Rural), "EP" (Environmental Protection) and "D" (Development) to "RV-32 " (Village Residential Exception 32), "RV" (Village Residential), "EP" (Environmetal Protection) and "OS" (Open Space) as shown in Document 1 and detailed in Document 2.

 

2.   Approve an amendment to the new Comprehensive Zoning By-law to change the zoning of 5599 First Line Road from (DR1) - (Development Reserve Zone) to (VIP [---r] - (Village Residential First Density, Subzone P), (VIP) - Village Residential First Density, Subzone P and (O1) - (Parks and Open Space), as shown in Document 1 and detailed in Document 2.

 

                                                                                                            CARRIED

 

 

3.         zONING - 1090 Bayview Drive

zONAGE - 1090, promenade bayview

acs2008-pte-pla-0072                                               West Carleton-March (5)

 

(This application is subject to Bill 51)

 

Written correspondence from Carmen Wilson dated June 9, 2008 was received and is held on file with the City Clerk.

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend Council approve:

 

1.   An amendment to the former West Carleton Township Zoning By-law to amend the CT-1 zone provisions relating to 1090 Bayview Drive  to permit a fully-detached dwelling house as a permitted use and to incorporate site specific zone provisions related to residential uses as shown in Document 1 and as detailed in Document 2.

 

2.   An amendment to the new Comprehensive Zoning By-law to amend the VM1[163r] zone provisions relating to 1090 Bayview Drive to permit a detached dwelling as a permitted use and to incorporate specific zone provisions as required related to residential uses as shown in Document 1 and as detailed in Document 2.

 

3.   That the By-law not proceed to Council until such time as the applicant provides evidence to the Planning Branch that the existing well with water quality issues has been abandoned in accordance with Provincial regulations.

 

                                                                                                            CARRIED

 

 

PUBLIC WORKS AND SERVICES

TRAVAUX PUBLICS

 

Traffic and Parking Operations

Circulation de stationnement

 

4.         OTTAWA CYCLING PLAN

plan SUR LE cyclisme d’ottawa

            ACS2008-PWS-TRF-0004                                 City Wide / À l'échelle de la ville

 

Written correspondence from Kurt Costello dated June 9, 2008 was received and is held on file with the City Clerk.

 

Rob Orchin, Manager of Mobility and Area Traffic Management provided a brief overview of the staff report and outlined the four recommendations.  Copies of the PowerPoint presentation and maps were distributed to the Committee, as well as larger maps were posted in the room for the public to view.  All documents are on file with the Coordinator.

 

In March, the Transportation Committee referred the staff report to the Roads and Cycling Advisory Committee, who in turn supported the plan.  Mr. Orchin explained that a number of plans were put together to harmonize the cycling policies and produce guidelines for cycling facilities.  Extensive public consultations sessions were held throughout the four-year planning process.

 

Terry O’Shaughnessy, Roads and Cycling Advisory Committee (RCAC) has been involved with RCAC since 2004 and congratulated staff on preparing an excellent report.  He liked that the plan provided flexibility in supporting a cycling education program, promoting health and awareness of transportation issues.  It also carries through to more advanced programs and a rural cycling program, which is scheduled to be ready for next year. 

 

Tom Seniuk, Past Chair, RCAC spoke in favour of the cycling plan and suggested including paved shoulders during any road construction in rural areas.  He stated that this would allow increasing safety for cyclists. 

 

Tom Trottier, Vice-President of Citizens for Safe Cycling (CfSC) provided some background information on CfSC, which has been in existence for approximately 25 years.  John Stevenson, Member of Citizens for Safe Cycling (CfSC), is a cyclist who uses bike paths regularly and belongs to a couple of cycling groups, also was in attendance to support the plan.  Mr. Trottier supported the rural roads cycling plan and agreed with Mr. Seniuk regarding making it a standard to pave shoulders of rural arterials considering it is not only safe for cyclists, but for farmers and other motorists as well.  He stated that paved shoulders are safer, and that it was proven that accidents were reduced by 15 per cent.  He listed many reasons why the Committee should approve the report, such as kids’ safety, mobility and health of adults.  He added that having paths and paved shoulders would make the City more attractive for tourists and would boost local economy. 

 

Klaus Beltzner congratulated the City for the cycling plan and agreed that opportunities should be taken advantage of whenever they present themselves; however, he stated that in his area, he would never have the pleasure of using his bike due to terrible road conditions.  He explained that there is a greater relationship between bicycles and transit routes, and suggested looking at equity of the roads.  He also supports paved shoulders as it is safer for cyclists in addition to motorcyclists.

 

In response to a questioned by Councillor Harder, Mr. Orchin suggested that Council would need to approve the cycling plan prior to the city acquiring funds from outside agencies.

 

Doug Yonson endorsed the staff report and highlighted two specific aspects of the plan.  He referenced 5.15 a) “The City undertake the development and implementation of mass promotional ride event similar to Montreal’s Tour de l’Ile”.  The other point he raised, referring to the map regarding the Ottawa-Carleton (OC) Trailway parallel to Hwy 7 through Stittsville, he referenced the abandoned railway in the long-term proposal.  He explained that the OC Trailway is an all-purpose trailway through Carleton Place and Stittsville and noted that there is no equivalent route in the east end of town.  He believed that this would be a great opportunity to link the city with 70 km of trail through to Russell County. 

 

Chair Jellett advised that the rail line Mr. Yonson was referring to is not owned by the City and suggested staff take note of the questions posed by Mr. Yonson.

 

Councillor Thompson spoke of the frustration in rural areas regarding pathways and informed staff that he attended a cycling meeting four years ago when they discussed this issue and added at the time there was not a lot of support.  He noted that there have been constant problems, (paved shoulders or lack of) and claimed that the cost of paved shoulders is almost as much as a vehicle lane.  With this in mind, he asked if there was communication with the roads staff. 

 

Mr. Orchin responded that the Infrastructure Services Branch is responsible for paving roads and staff have been good in working with him in looking at these issues and added that this year, a number of roads will have paved shoulders.  He also provided the Infrastructure Services staff with an early draft of the cycling plan, asking if it was possible to add paved shoulders to these roads.  He noted that it becomes difficult when there is a requirement to relocate ditches, poles, trees, etc.

 

Councillor Thompson suggested conveying to the appropriate staff that in the rural areas if they could pave the existing shoulder. Mr. Orchin agreed with the Councillor’s point and suggested it to the roads staff.

 

Councillor Thompson referenced the lack of money in Osgoode for paving roads, however mentioned that there is a group interested in maintaining the rail line for snowmobiles in the winter.  The said rail line is in Kemptville and goes through Osgoode to Manotick station and into the city.  He questioned staff if this is something that can be looked at.  Mr. Orchin advised that he has no knowledge of an existing program to address this.

 

Councillor Brooks acknowledged that the Plan has merit and cycling is on the rise, although he questioned the prioritization between road maintenance and bicycle paths.  He queried as to what part of the budget does Council find $2.5 million required for this plan and reminded the Committee that there is a huge funding gap in the city’s road maintenance. 

 

Mr. Orchin responded that this plan came from the Transportation Master Plan and the Official Plan as well as other documents and when first working on this there were many management requirements; however, staff worked hard in trying to bridge the gaps.  He added that when the first draft of the plan was created, the requested funding was over $100 million dollars.  Staff tried to find a middle ground between what was needed to support cycling, and the challenge that Councillor Brooks raised.  Opportunities were looked at during re-construction and re-surfacing, adding a little bit to the roads at a reasonable cost to make it more suitable.  He recognized that this puts pressure in other areas such as the stand-alone pathways and railway lines, which were difficult to work into the plan and also the reason they are included in Phase 2 of the plan. 

 

Councillor El-Chantiry explained that the paved shoulders in rural areas are confusing because some are only partly done and cyclists cannot continue on the same road.  Mr. Orchin advised that improving connectivity is part of the list of the prioritization criteria within the plan.

 

In response to a follow up question from Councillor El-Chantiry, Mr. Orchin took note that paved shoulders are not the same quality as paved roads and advised he would discuss with staff. 

 

Councillor Hunter asked staff if there was any thought given to paring down the number of roads.  He explained that in the urban area there are many roads parallel together, i.e., Kent/O’Connor/Metcalfe; all designated as bike routes and opined that reducing it to one or two roads might be less costly.  Mr. Orchin agreed with the Councillor’s overall comment and advised that staff are looking into this suggestion.

 

Councillor Hunter referred to Mr.’s Beltzner’s comment and stated that cyclists have the right to use roads, whether it is a cycling route or not and people should be able to be out enjoying the roads.  He asked people in his ward what they thought of bike routes and the overall view is that they felt better having separate cycling lanes apart from motorized vehicles.  His final comment was with respect to paved shoulders and the importance of maintaining them.

 

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee and Transportation Committee recommend Council:

 

1.   Approve the Ottawa Cycling Plan (OCP), as prepared by MMM Group, (Document 1) including:

a)   The Proposed Cycling Network, as illustrated in Figure 3-4a, 3-4b and 3-4c;

b)   The Proposed Cycling Facility Types, as illustrated in Figure 3-5a, 3-5b and 3-4c;

c)   Policy Recommendations (Document 2); and,

d)   Technical Recommendations (Document 3).

 

2.   Adopt in principle the Cycling Network 10-Year Implementation Plan as illustrated in Figures 6-1a, 6-1b, 6-1c and Document 4;

 

3.   Approve that City staff consider the Planning and Design Guidelines of the Ottawa Cycling Plan, when implementing designated on and off-road cycling facilities as identified in the Cycling Network.

 

4.   Approve:

a)   That the entire Ottawa Cycling Plan, including the network be reviewed and updated every five (5) years; and,

b)   That between formal review periods,

i.    Individual network route changes, additions or deletions be considered when opportunities arise; and,

ii.   That authority to implement such changes to the network be delegated to the Director, Traffic and Parking Operations Branch.

 

                                                                                                CARRIED

 

 

WATER AND WASTEWATER SERVICES

SERVICES DE L’EAU POTABLE ET DES EAUX USÉES

 

5.         Petition for drainge works -
ashton station road/upper dowdall municipal drain

PÉtition pour les travaux de drainage -
chemin ashton station/
égout municipal dowdall

ACS2008-PWS-WWS-0015                                                                Rideau-Goulbourn (21)

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend Council:

 

i)    Consider the attached report and petition and give approval to proceed with a preliminary report on the drainage works; and

ii)   Appoint the firm of Robinson Consultants Inc. as the Engineer of Record under the Drainage Act.

                                                                                                            CARRIED

 

 

6.         Petition for drainge works -
ashton station road/upper karl municipal drain

PÉtition pour les travaux de drainage -
chemin ashton station/
égout municipal karl

ACS2008-PWS-WWS-0016                                                Rideau-Goulbourn (21)

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend Council:

 

i)    Consider the attached report and petition and give approval to proceed with a preliminary report on the drainage works; and

ii)   Appoint the firm of Robinson Consultants Inc. as the Engineer of Record under the Drainage Act.

                                                                                                            CARRIED

 

 

COUNCILLORS’ ITEMS

ARTICLES DES CONSEILLERS

 

COUNCILLOR / CONSEILLER D. THOMPSON

 

7.         ReduceD speed in school zones in rural areas

VITESSE RÉDUITE DANS LES ZONES SCOLAIRES EN MILIEU RURAL

                                                                                      West Carleton (5), Stittsville-Kanata West (6)

                                                                                                                              Cumberland (19), Osgoode (20)

            ACS2008-ccs-ara-0003                                                  Rideau-Goulbourn (21)

 

Tom Carmody, Specialist of Traffic Assessment advised that staff received the inquiry from Councillor Thompson that was raised during an Open Mike session concerning reducing speed limits in school zones.  Currently, staff is bringing forward a report as directed by the Transportation Committee, with an expanded section on school speed zones.  This issue arose last fall following concerns from St. Isodore School in the rural area in which staff upgraded the school area signs (a model sign was posted at the meeting).  The large signs are visible at over a kilometre away and draws motorists attention, were erected in these areas:

 

·        One at Castor Valley School,

·        Four at St. Mary’s School,

·        Two at St. Mark’s High School

·        One at Stonecrest School in West Carleton

·        One at Heritage School in Navan. 

 

Staff deployed the signs at once to draw attention to potential presence of children along the road even though most children in rural schools are transported by bus. 

 

Councillor Harder advised that this is a citywide problem and that 23 schools (approximately 2200 kids) will be affected.  She offered to break down the list of schools by ward and contact each individual councillor to discuss the issue.  She added that 250 kids in her ward would be affected by this reduction and that the school-councils were not informed of this change. 

 

Mr. Carmody received comments from three schools, primarily catholic, including St. Andrews and addressed the matter with the respective parent-councils.  He added that staff be contacted when concerns arise as they only hear portions of the concerns. 

 

Councillor Jellett agreed that not all parents are informed of the cancellation of buses and advised that he received an email from a resident regarding the Avalon School in Orleans and was informed of this reduction because the resident was inquiring if her child could get bus service and was told no.

 

In response to a question by Councillor Monette, Mr. Carmody informed the Committee that St. Mark’s High School is one that staff have been reviewing because of concerns raised by parents in the safety of the students that are crossing at the signal at Dowswall Street.  Staff surveyed the speeds in the area and they are almost the same as the posted limit, which is quite exceptional.  Staff are continuing to monitor at this particular school, which will be a two-year pilot project for a reduced school zone that will include flashers.  The parent-council will be involved with this as well as Councillor Thompson.  There is approximately six schools in the rural area that have flashers (North Dundas, Kempville, Russell Township, Bourget, Alma).  The cost of the project will range from approximately $10,000 a pole, which will be coming from the safety budget.

 

Councillor Thompson thanked Mr. Carmody for all the work he has done.  He advised the Committee that additional funding should be looked at for the Traffic Assessment staff.  He equally felt that this is an important issue and drivers should use extra caution when stopping for buses.  If the speed zones regulations are standardized, people will learn to reduce their speed. 

 

In response to Chair Jellett inquiry on the timing of the report, Mr. Carmody responded that the report would be ready in late September or early October.  The draft report would expand to include the adult crossing guard program to an extensive research on speed zones for schools in other rural municipalities.  Staff also included the 700 km of gravel roads in rural areas and how they would be addressed. 

 

Klaus Beltzner previously sent his presentation by e-mail to the Committee.  He thanked Mr. Carmody for his diligence and hard work on this issue.  He specified that information on the City’s website regarding roads safety statistics, mainly with respect to collisions, seems to be inaccurate. Ottawa has a challenge and duty to protect young people as well as cyclists.  More schools are discontinuing the bus programs, therefore kids will be cycling and walking to school.  He referenced Nova Scotia that has doubled the speeding fines to $330 dollars in the school zones.  There are two Provinces in Canada that enforce a 30 km speed zone for school areas and playgrounds.  When drivers in British Columbia and Alberta see the signs, they slow down as they have been conditioned to those times. 

 

He spoke on the recommendation which is to ask for a friendly amendment to Thompson’s motion to include a review of the benefits to a 30 km zone as implemented and to establish community safety zones near schools and public areas, including parks and sports fields and publicize doubling speeding fines in these zones.  Ontario laws allow this to happen so Ottawa only needs to implement it.

 

Chair Jellett referred to staff to respond to the delegate.  Mr. Carmody confirmed that a good portion of Mr. Beltzner’s suggestions would be implemented.  The Province of Ontario allows a 20km reduction in the speed limit for school zones so if it is an 80km, it can be reduced to 60km, 50 km to 30 km. 

 

Councillor Thompson inquired if the policy would reference other municipalities’ policies.  Mr. Carmody confirmed that the report would include a number of references. 

 

Moved by Councillor Thompson,

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee consider the following motion:

 

That Traffic and Parking Operations staff be directed to review the criteria for designating reduced speed zones in school zones in rural areas.

 

                                                                                                            CARRIED

 

 

INFORMATION PREVIOUSLY DISTRIBUTED

INFORMATION DISTRIBUÉE AUPARAVANT  

 

a.        Response to Council Motion 30/13 -
Paramedic and Fire Response Times to
the South End of Long Island at Peak Hours

Réponse du Conseil à la motion 30/13 -
délais d’intervention des services Paramédic et
d’Incendie à l’extrémité sud de Long Island aux
heures de pointe

ACS2008-CPS-DCM-0004-IPD                                         (RIDEAU- GOULBOURN WARD 21)

 

Appearing before the Committee on this item were Allan Matthews, Sector Chief and Paul Hutt, Sector Chief for District 9.  Sector Chief Matthews provided a preliminary explanation of the response times to the south end of Long Island during peak hours.  He outlined the 2007 statistics, which showed that 36 calls were taken with four of those responses going to South Island at various times of the day.  The following provides a more defined description of each call:

 

·        8:00 – Five minute response to Van Vliet

·        11:56 - Six minute response time to South River Drive

·        17:48 – Five minute and 25 seconds to South Island Park Drive

·        21:00 - Four minute response time to South Island Park Drive

 

He believed that the increased volumes on the bridge would have little or significantly low impact on the response times.  Further, staff ran scenarios utilizing the Station Location Modelling Program. This program allowed staff to gain more information by using various distances within a district at different times with a variety of factors that may affect response times.  It also provided statistics with respect to the back up station at Earl Armstrong Road in Barrhaven, which were also able to get to South Island within nine minutes.

 

In response to questions from Councillor El-Chantiry, Sector Chief Matthews advised that there is minimal impact on the response times since they have the ability to get around the traffic and he added that the bridge is wide enough to get through even if there is traffic on both sides.

 

Brian Tansley advised that he submitted a request for information through the RIAC regarding emergency services provision, not only for South Island, but for all of the Village of Manotick.  He believes that the level of service on Bridge Street is approaching unacceptable levels of service especially during peak hours and is gradually extending with time so that traffic is jamming access to the island.  Notwithstanding the statistics, the residents continue to be concerned regarding the trend, which shows there are significant times during the peak periods (being during weekdays and/or weekdays) when the bridges are blocked.  In his opinion, there is no way that emergency vehicles could get across the bridge in any direction.  His primary concern is that he does not believe access to paramedic, fire and police services is going to continue effectively at the present rate, given the traffic intensity that they have observed. 

 

In response to a question by Councillor Thompson, Sector Chief Hutt advised that one of the studies currently being reviewed is the old deployment model.  Regardless of the incident, they would have resources covering the area.  He added that Manotick also has a volunteer fire department, including residents living throughout the community who offer updates to the fire department and the Chief officers. 

 

Sector Chief Hutt advised that Fire Services continuously works closely with the Emergency Measures Services and Police Services so if it is a matter of shutting down an intersection to improve a response time, those resources are there to be used.

 

Mr. McKinley informed the Committee that he was involved in helping the Manotick Community Association when this request for information was put forward.  He noted that staff did not answer the question that was put forward, which is quoted as “Could you please determine whether during peak times, if the bridge represents an impediment that would delay response times to an unacceptable level.”  The idea being that it might be of some assistance to staff and provide justification to redirect commercial traffic to other more appropriate locations.  For the people who live there and see conditions during peak times, trucks backed up for several miles and moving in neither direction, it does not make sense that one single response at 8 am represents a fair assessment of the question. 

 

Councillor Jellett thought that the delegate had a valid point, since Council had asked that a staff report go back to TRC on this issue. 

 

Sector Chief Matthews responded that he was a sector chief for that area for four years and Sector Chief Hutt has been responsible for that area since that time and in his experience, there has not been a time when fire trucks have been unable to pass along that bridge.  He explained that when vehicles are parked or waiting for traffic lights and they are following one behind the other, they move over to the side to allow an emergency vehicle that is en route to a scene to by-pass them.  In the same way that traffic moves downtown, vehicles move to the side, allowing fire trucks to pass down the middle in case of emergency.

 

Chair Jellett emphasized that the increase in commercial vehicles could in fact cause a problem in the future. 

 

Councillor Brooks noted that it was his motion that asked staff to proceed with a study to see if trucks can be relocated to other routes.  He suggested having fire drills at peak hours in order to prove the theory.  Sector Chief Hutt agreed with Councillor Brooks and referred to his suggestion as a Priority One response, although he felt Legal would probably suggest that it is not a likely thing to do.  He suggested doing dry runs (no lights or sirens) during peak times.  He added that EMS also regularly do dry runs during peak times. 

 

                                                                                                RECEIVED

 

 

“OPEN MIKE” SESSION

« TRIBUNE LIBRE »       

 

CARP RIVER MUNICIPAL DRAIN

 

Ted Cooper circulated a handout to the Committee that included the following attachments:  (His presentation and attachments are held on file with City Clerk)

 

Attachment 1 - a city map highlighting the proposed municipal drain,

Attachment 2a) - a 1910 decision of the Ontario Drainage Court,

Attachment 2b) - a copy of the 1909 Ontario of Appeal decision that a firm the point of sufficient outlet is downstream of the Village of Carp,

Attachment 3 – maps showing land use conditions in the Carp River watershed in the years 1909, 2006 and projected in 2031,

Attachment 4 – two pictures of the Carp River (north and south) upstream of the Village of Carp on April 9, 2008.

 

Mr. Cooper reminded the Committee that he attended the ARAC meeting on May 8 and heard some conflicting comments regarding the status of the Carp River as a municipal drain.  He elaborated that during the meeting when Councillor El-Chantiry asked whether the Carp River was considered a municipal drain, Mr. Marc, Senior Counsel commented that an exhaustive search had been undertaken and there was no such reference or evidence found that it was a municipal drain.  Prior to the May 8th meeting, Mr. Cooper spoke to Dave Ryan, the Drainage Superintendent and Marc Gagné, Municipal Drainage Project Coordinator who indicated that they had undertaken additional research and found several relevant documents, most importantly a borderline by-law for the drains construction.  They also spoke to a retired OMAP manager and based on his opinion, the thought was that if this matter was brought to the court of the Ontario Drainage referee, there is a good chance that the finding would be that it is a municipal drain.

 

Mr. Cooper also brought copies of John Harrison-Moore Drainage Engineer’s drawings, showing the proposed Carp River municipal drainage improvements.  He referred to attachment 3 and advised that the percentage of urban land uses in the watershed to Richardson Side Road would have grown from zero per cent in 1909, 47 per cent in 2006 and 68 per cent in 2031.  It should be apparent that urban development would add to the flooding problems in the rural area downstream of Richardson Side Road where the proposed improvements to the Carp River are presently planned to be terminated. 

 

There has been considerable community design planning both for the Village of Carp and the Carp Road corridor.  He referred to the photos of the flooding shown in attachment 4, which seems to occur for extended periods of time.  This situation could be aggravated by further drainage improvements in the upstream urban watershed in increased urbanization. 

 

He reflected that in the early twentieth century, it appeared that there was considerable disagreement amongst the neighbouring townships over the issue of drainage and who should pay to make sure drainage continued to a sufficient outlet, so much so that the issues were disputed all the way to the Ontario Court of Appeal.  One hundred years later, the evidence is that there are drainage problems along the Carp River that extend well beyond Kanata West in the urban boundary.  Yet, in the amalgamated city, committee reports on the subject raised barely a ripple of concerned that downstream rural residents could be affected by the significant urbanization that continues upstream based on the results of the studies funded largely by land development interests. 

 

On April 23, Auditor General Alain Lalonde, when commenting on the need for the City to address shortcomings in the Carp River related projects stated “it’s not a matter of cost, it’s a matter of obligation.  It’s something the City must do.”  He submitted that the same comments apply to determining the status of the Carp River as a municipal drain.  He prepared a number of questions that he wished to pose to the Drainage Superintendent Dave Ryan, which are as follows:

 

1.      What the consequences to the City be if work were to proceed outside the drainage act, i.e. through the ongoing Class EA process and it was later determined the Carp River was in fact a municipal drain. 

2.      Does the Drainage Act allow for works to be done in an environmentally sensitive manner.  Our Drainage Act works subject to the Fisheries Act because there has been some concern or suggestion that there is a higher bar set by a Class EA process when in fact in his experience is that in theory, the applicable legislation applies the same way.

3.      Does the Drainage Act allow for some flexibility in assessing costs i.e. to MTO to the urban area where much increase run off volumes are coming from versus the rural area.  In other words, should rural residents on the watershed have a concern that they will be saddled with more than their fair share of the cost to extend the restoration work downstream to the Village of Carp.

 

Councillor El-Chantiry observed that it appeared to be two different opinions and referenced the delegate’s first question to staff.  Chair Jellet advised that the appropriate staff was no longer present at the meeting and reminded the Committee that Mr. Marc, Senior Legal Counsel prepared and sent a response to ARAC and the delegate earlier in the day.

 

Christine Enta, Legal Counsel, offered to answer questions of a general nature relating to the legislation and advised that the adjacent owners to the land in question could challenge the status of the municipal drain.

 

 

 

 

 

CARNIVALS

 

Wayne Van de Graff provided a preview of what the Committee would be hearing at a future meeting.  He explained his intention of turning his property into world-class tourism event; a 1930’s carnival with a circus style performance.  He distributed copies of a conceptual drawing outlining the attractions and provided the schedule of the event, being August 1 through September 6.  Two rides, a 1917 ferris wheel, the oldest one in North America and brought up to modern safety standards, and an old-fashioned carousel, have created the need for a temporary zoning application for an amusement park, which will be considered at ARAC on June 27.  He advised that this would help create jobs for the local community and added that the local BIA is in support of the idea.

 

Bob McKinley advised that he is not in support of this idea and believed that other neighbours feel the same way.  Some residents have collectively retained Ms. Cathleen Willis to represent their position, which was put forward to staff that is not supporting this application because it does not conform to the City’s Official Plan and also violates a number of provincial policy statements.  He strongly suggested to Mr. Van de Graff to establish a dialogue with their consultant to discuss common concerns that may be resolved prior to the June 27 meeting. 

 

 

MILL QUARTER CORPORATION

 

Margo Belanger Chair, Dickinson Square Heritage Management Inc. (DSHMI) and Bonnie Gray, President of Watson’s Mill, Manotick Inc. distributed copies of her presentation which is on file with the Clerk.  Ms. Belanger provided some background on the creation of the Manotick Mill Quarter Corporation.  On November 28, 2007, City Council approved the creation of the Corporation when it agreed to purchase buildings and grounds around Dickinson Square with the exception of Watson’s Mill, which will be sold for one dollar to Watson’s Mill Manotick Inc.  The Board of Directors are members of the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee, although the purpose for their presentation is to request that two seats be added on the Board for DSHMI and Watson’s Mill Manotick Inc.  Ms. Belanger explained that DSHMI is a coalition of eleven community-based organizations in the Village of Manotick who have used the square over the last number of years for activities.  The organizations range from the Manotick BIA, Watson’s Mill and the Rideau Historical Society.  They would like to work with the City and the Mill Quarter Corporation to voice Manotick’s needs and concerns and feel they can serve the interests of the community by sitting on the Board.

 

Ms. Gray added that the intent was that the Manotick Mill Quarter Board would be formulated for 2 years and then there would be a movement toward another way to manage the Square.  Her understanding was that the City would review the report that Watson’s Mill prepared on the original business plan which would include an option that Watson’s Mill take over managing the Square eventually.

 

Moved by Councillor Brooks

 

That a representative from each of the following be appointed to the Manotick Mill Quarter Management Board:

 

a)                  Dickinson Square Heritage Management Inc.

b)                  Watson’s Mill Manotick Inc.

 

                                                                                                CARRIED

 

 

DICKINSON SQUARE AFFAIR

 

Noel Norenius from the Manotick Community Association (MCA) reviewed the documentation and had concerns about their interpretation of full representation of the community through DSHMI and WMMI.  He believed that the expenditure of approximately $2.5 million appeared to be heavily weighed towards two or three particular groups.  It is the Manotick Community Association’s belief that there should be a broader input provided from the community as a whole. 

 

He added the buildings would not necessarily all be historical buildings in terms of how they might possibly operate in the future.  They have concerns on public performances or cultural affairs such as Theatre in the Park, which they helped organize for the past three years.  This is posing a problem because no one seemed to be able to legally give them permission to use those particular premises.  His question prior to the motion that was approved was to find out about the process and he asked if there would be a formal board meeting that would be open to the public.  Mr. Norenius added that ARAC previously received a request from President of the MCA to have representation on the Board.

 

Chair Jellett referred to the Rural Affairs Officer to respond to the delegate.  Mr. Moodie advised the proper branch to follow up on this issue would be the Real Property Asset Management Branch (RPAM).  Chair Jellett agreed to re-direct the issue to RPAM.

 

 

REGULATIONS DEALING WITH ENDANGERED SPECIES OF ONTARIO

 

Bob McKinley circulated information to the Committee regarding regulations dealing with endangered species of Ontario.  He reminded Councillors when the Province was putting forward regulations to enforce the Clean Drinking Water Legislation, Ottawa became very effective in tempering the impact of this regulation to the extent that it became acceptable.  He believed this situation was similar. 

 

Mr. McKinley briefly reviewed the documents and commented that he had never read anything more draconian in his 32 years in dealing with the law.  He reminded Councillors that this is an enforcement document that would be administered with the administrative discretion of the Ministry of Natural Resources staff.  Enforcement officers are empowered to enter upon private property without the benefit of a search warrant or a court order.  They are entitled to arrest individuals without the benefit of a warrant and retain them in custody, as well as charge employers of employees who are found breaking the Act, with the onus of proof being on the part of the employer to disprove his/her guilt by attesting they had no knowledge of the offence by the employee.

 

He added that the scope of the legislation goes well beyond the similar federal legislation in that it applies to almost 140 separate living things that used to be restricted primarily into creatures, but is now extended into flora and fauna to include things like American ginseng.  Habitat is defined to be just about anything where a species may derive its ability to continue.  There are major implications for the farming community across the Province to the extent that the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Affairs have issued a cautionary bulletin to the community asking that people who may have an interest in this issue make a presentation to temper the implications of this regulation.  The Minister is limited with respect to appointing very select types of individuals to the committee due to the restricted terms of reference.  He urged the Committee to take this into account and advised that Ottawa can take a constructive approach in dealing with this and provide timely input. 

 

Councillor Brooks thanked the delegate for his research and time.  The Councillor voiced his opinion and asked why Council always has to step up and support or defend provincial regulations.  He encouraged the Committee to communicate with the Minister and that they hold a public meeting to engage in dialogue with local farmers and those affected.

 

Mr. Moodie advised that his office was notified that the deadline for comment was June 16 and added that the legislation is coming on board as of June 30, which will replace the 2002 version of the Endangered Species Act.

 

Chair Jellett echoed Councillors Brooks suggestion and suggested getting Legal Services’ input when writing a letter to the Minister. 

 

 

INQUIRIES

DEMANDES DES RENSEIGNMENTS

 

FOLLOW-UP INQUIRY RE: LEAF & YARD WASTE – D. THOMPSON

 

Anne-Marie Fowler, Manager of Solid Waste Operations spoke on the staff response to Councillor Thompson’s inquiry for leaf and yard waste service and the reduction in service in the rural, non-village areas.  She explained that staff reviewed the concerns from residents with the majority being in the West Carleton area, with a number of different concerns in Councillor Brooks and Thompson’s ward.  Unfortunately there was lack of communication to residents with respect to this budget reduction issue, which was somewhat confusing and frustrating for the residents.  She added that the previous calendar sent to residents showed the pick up dates were still in effect even though public service announcements and flyers advised the public of the change. 

 

Ms. Fowler suggested having two pick-ups in the spring and twice in the fall and added that the cost of the two additional pick-ups would be approximately $20,000 dollars. 

 

Moved by Councillor Thompson,

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend that Council direct staff to increase the service level in the Spring and the Fall which can be achieved by adding one additional collection each season, resulting in one collection at the end of April, one collection at the end of May, one collection at the end of October and the final collection to be November 10, 2008 for the additional cost of $10,000 per collection.  This would lead to a budget pressure of $10,000 for 2008, which can be offset by increases in revenues for recycling within the Solid Waste Operating budget.

 

                                                                                                CARRIED

 

In response to a question by Councillor El-Chantiry, Ms. Fowler responded that staff are committed to sending out information to residents on how to build their own composters.

 

Councillor Thompson suggested distributing the leaf and waste calendar pick-ups for the calendar year so that residents would be informed ahead of time.  Ms. Fowler agreed to discuss with Canada Post.

 

 

OTHER BUSINESS

AUTRES QUESTIONS

 

 

ADJOURNMENT

LEVÉE DE LA SÉANCE

 

The meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m.

 

 

Original signed by                                                     Original signed by

C. Langford                                                                Councillor R. Jellett

 

                                                                                                                                               

Committee Coordinator                                             Chair