City of Ottawa
Taxi Advisory Sub-Committee
Taxi Stands
Minute 6
Friday, March 14, 2003
9:15 – 11:30 a.m.
Coventry Connections
Ottawa
Present: Linda Anderson -
Emergency & Protective Services
Paul Bendus - Taxi
Driver
Christine Charbonneau - Public
Member - TAC
Phil Edens - Transportation, Utilities & Public Works
Tony El-Ghazal – TAC
Troy Leeson -
Transportation, Utilities & Public
Works
R. Warden McKimm –
Legal, Coventry Connections
Guy Oweis – Manager – Operations, Coventry
Connections
Other Information:
Facilitator: Tony
El-Ghazal
Minutes: Christine
Charbonneau
Scribe: Linda
Anderson
Next
Meeting - Friday, March 28, 2003. 9:30 - 11:30 a.m. Coventry Connections, 455
Coventry Road, Ottawa.
Taxi-Stand Sub-Committee Transit-Way Sub-Committee Contact Information |
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Mitri Khalife |
Committee Coordinator (Taxi-Stands) |
277-6464 |
Linda Anderson |
Emergency and Protective Services |
580-2424 x 29257 linda.anderson@ottawa.ca |
Paul Bendus |
Taxi Driver |
739-7898 |
Douglas Bowron |
Transportation, Utilities and Public Works |
580-2424 x 13926 douglas.bowron@ottawa.ca |
Christine Charbonneau |
Public Member - TAC |
824-9348 charb@sympatico.ca |
Phil Edens |
Transportation, Utilities and Public Works |
580-2424 x 28924 philip.edens@ottawa.ca |
Tony El-Ghazal |
Taxi Driver - TAC |
293-9898 tonyghazal@sympatico.ca |
Troy Leeson |
Transportation, Utilities and Public Works |
798-8998 troy.leeson@ottawa.ca |
Hanif Patni |
Coventry Connections |
746-8740 x 3313 hpatni@coventryconnections.com |
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Guests for Friday, March 14, 2003 |
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R. Warden McKimm |
Coventry Connections Legal |
746-8740 x 3315 rmckimm@coventryconnections.com |
Guy Oweis |
Coventry Connections Manager, Operations |
746-8740 x 3308 goweis@coventryconnections.com |
1. 17. Rideau Street Temporary
Taxi Stand. List A. –
Walk-about with consultant week of Mar. 18. Plan coming forward next few weeks.
Concerns
from drivers: loading zones are small. Too far from Rideau Centre doors. Concerns
from City: changing signs requires
consultation. Drivers are still parking
outside of loading zones
2. 38. Weston and 39. Daly.
List A. See Attachment
C: Jackie Holtzman, Congess Centre,
meeting with Hanif Patni, Coventry Connections. The need for taxi stands at the
Congress Centre - reply.
3. 3. Delta Hotel. List B. - no update
Negotiate for
light system as a technical solution.
Negotiate with Shamrock use of parking lot to queue cabs.
4. 7. Capital
Hill Hotel - List B.– no update
Hanif spoke with Hume Rogers - Manager. Heard no complaints re: insufficient cabs. Taxis cannot use loading zone. Phil to examine alternatives on North side of Albert. One space possible. Hanif to investigate near-by parking lot for queuing.
5. 40. 111 Sussex: - List A. See Attachment D from Guy Oweis, G.M. Coventry & Public
Works. Temporary Solution until
construction is complete in 2005. All
calls will go out as message to entire fleet – closest car will get the job and
installation of a direct line to Blue Line Taxi in lobby of 11l Sussex.
6. Reviewed: 23. Bare Fax – Added to List D – Market Study
24.
47 York – Added to List D – Market Study
25.
Pearson Building – Added to List C
26.
Dalhousie & Clarance – Removed from List A and added to List D –
Market Study
27.
York At Byward Market – Added to List D – Market Study
28.
Elgin Street – Added to List C
30.
400 Cooper – Added to List B
31.
All the Museums - Added to List B - Letter to Public Works
from TAC Chairman required
32.
George Street – In front of Bay – Added to List D – Market Study
List A - High
Probability for Changes or Additions Subject To
Agreement and/or Consultation - 1 - |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
9 |
Crown Plaza -
Albert St.: possibility of extension
by removal of 1 parking meter to create space 30 m in length 3
+ 2 add’l spaces. |
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10 |
Albert St. West
of Bay - possibility of 4 spaces 24m with parking meters removed. |
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12 |
Minto Hotel -
Laurier Ave -. South side removal of
up to 2 parking meters. Possibility
of 2 spaces. |
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17 |
Rideau Street (Shopping Centre) |
01/02 |
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Interim Solution Completed Notices posted. See Attachment B. Tender in process for study. ****** $ 75K Funding for study approved - January 8,
03. Interim solution until study is
complete and implemented (Fall 2003.) Rideau Street Temporary Taxi
Stand: Subject to
confirmation/implementation Feb.
2003. 6 loading zones on Rideau St. between Dalhousie and
Sussex: 3 on North & 3 on South
sides. 1 taxi per zone. Zones subject to verification. Strict enforcement, zero tolerance - ticketing applies. No changes to current signs. |
18 |
180
Cooper-potential for 3 spaces from 49.5m-68.7m East of Elgin St. involving
removal of parking meters. |
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List A - High
Probability for Changes or Additions Subject To
Agreement and/or Consultation -2- |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
22 |
Courtyard Hotel
- Dalhousie St. possibility of 2
additional spaces by removing parking meters 2 + 2 add’l spaces. |
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29 |
City Hall -
Issue with Real Property and Asset Management if to be on entrance area.
Consideration could be given for 2
spaces on street North Side of Lisgar Street, East of Cartier by removing
parking meters. |
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30. |
400 Cooper |
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No parking Zone ·
Para Transpo
Zone ·
Possibility of
angled parking? ·
Possibility of
2 spots |
38 |
New Taxi Stand at the Weston Hotel at Daly. Front entrance stand was closed in 2002 and will be
reestablished due to demand. |
12/02 |
02/03 |
No consultation required. COMPLETED (January 2003) |
39 |
Daly Street (Feeder for Weston) |
02/03 |
03/05 |
See Attachment
C. Jackie Holtzman, Congress Centre,
meeting with Hanif Patni. Any future
building (expansion 2005) would accommodate taxicab stands. Recommend that city officers continue to
investigate the legal position of the Congress Centre. |
List A - High
Probability for Changes or Additions Subject To
Agreement and/or Consultation -3- |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
40. |
111 Sussex |
02/03 |
03/03 |
Interim SolutionSee Attachment
D. Temporary solution until
construction is complete in 2005. All
calls will go out as message to entire fleet –closest car will get the job
and installation of a direct line to Blue Line in lobby of 111 Sussex. Required more
stands to feed volume. |
List B - Medium
Probability for Changes or Additions - 1 - |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
2 |
Marriott Hotel - from Queen St. to the entrance of the Hotel and
three spots on the south side of Queen St. |
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Unable to
move back far enough on Queen to make left turn safe because of Place de
Ville driveways. ·
When hotel
construction finished, City may be willing to flip location of stand with
loading zone. |
3 |
Delta Hotel - return the three parking
spots and add four more |
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Negotiate for light system as technical
solution for Delta and Barbarella’s Diamond’s Cabaret @ 340 Queen ·
Negotiate with Shamrock use of parking lot to queue cabs. ·
Air intake. ·
Hotel
loading zone must be moved back. ·
Letters on
file from Delta saying they do not want stand there. ·
Fire
Marshall concerns. ·
2 cabs park
in front circle of hotel and ·
install
light at back to signal when cab to come forward. ·
Too slow -
by time cab moves out someone else
has grabbed fare. Meeting to take place with owner/ Hanif/Tony to discuss light
installation. |
5 |
Sparks & Metcalfe - add 3 more on the east side of Metcalfe |
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Police zone
- RCMP located there. ·
Queen east
of Metcalfe, both sides are tour bus zones. ·
If chip
wagon on NW corner of Queen &
Metcalfe can be moved to other side & freed up for taxi space. ·
Perhaps
industry approach owner of chip wagon to see if can use space for taxi stand
after hours. ·
Phil to
explore East side of Metcalfe loading zone/parking zone uses ·
Note: NCC development of underground parking
spaces to be examined. |
List B - Medium
Probability for Changes or Additions - 2 - |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
6 |
Sparks at O’Connor - create at least 3 spots |
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May be
opportunity to do something in off-peak hours in “no parking zone (west
side). ·
East-side -
driveway, etc - not appropriate. ·
Why was
sidewalk widened? - too expensive to revisit. |
7 |
Capital Hill
(88 Albert) 3 spots |
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Hanif spoke with Hume Rogers -
Manager. Heard no complaints re: insufficient cabs. Taxis cannot use loading zone. Phil to examine alternatives on North side
of Albert. ·
One space possible. · Hanif
to investigate near-by parking lot for queuing. ***** ·
Request
Hanif write a letter to hotel owner requesting 3 additional taxi spaces in
hotel loading zone. |
8 |
130 Albert Street |
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3 spaces
already there ·
3 parking
meters - if hotel agrees possibility of 1 more taxi stand at 88 Albert
(requires further verification during sub-committee meeting) |
11 |
300 Slater -Kent up to beginning of the existing stand |
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2 loading
zones - may be possible to shorten loading zone near Kent ·
Add one
space |
List B - Medium
Probability for Changes or Additions - 3 - |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
14 |
Gloucester at O’Connor |
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·
Add 2 -4
more stands on north side of Gloucester, West of O’Connor ·
8 existing
spaces ·
No
parking & loading zone on N. Side
between Elgin & entrance to city p/lot.
Meters ahead of that ·
Request -
Take meters on north side out - create new area or on south side between
existing stand and laneway aprox. 20 meters ·
busy
building - needs taxi stands ·
Tony to provide business case via blue line
call centre stats. |
16 |
123 Metcalfe |
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Existing 3
meters ·
Add spaces
by removing hotel loading zone ·
Peak hour
restriction - re-look at restrictions ·
Remove
meters - Troy to discuss with meter group |
21 |
Civic Centre |
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·
Letter of Intro from TAC requesting
permanent taxi stand spaces ·
Private Property ·
City to help set up meeting |
28. |
Elgin Street – Elgin Street Diner |
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In 2002 stand created in bus zone after
OC hours ·
Many restraints/low probability ·
Examine creation of stands on side
streets ·
Consider using side streets for stands –
Jack Percell/Frank. ·
301 Elgin – outside rush hour |
31. |
Museums |
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Private Property ·
Federal Land ·
Letter from TAC to Heritage Canada/Public
works requesting stands. |
List C - Low Probability for Changes or Additions - 1 - |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
1 |
235 Queen Street - from Bank St. to Para Transpo Parking Spot |
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Remove
parking meter. ·
Co-use Para
Transpo spot. ·
Protocol restricts stands to 4 spaces. ·
Existing
curb regulations and Para Transpo have precedence ·
Proposed
additional spaces on south side of Queen however U turns not permitted within
150 m of existing stand |
4 |
402 Queen - as is and 2 additional spaces |
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Currently 3
spaces 9 m from intersection with loading zone at rear - loading zone now
encroaches on lane way. ·
No space
for available stands. |
13 |
Gloucester @ 160
Elgin |
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Need 2 - 4
more ·
Safety
issue - turning space needed for
larger vehicles ·
Already has
8 - 10 spaces ·
No stopping
at start of zone back to Elgin ·
Far end is
entrance to parking lost. No parking
after laneway. |
15 |
50 O’Connor |
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4 spaces in
stand ·
very busy
zone ·
move police
zone ahead to no parking area or look at supplemental
stand on west side ·
business
case required |
19 |
131 Cooper |
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Low
Probability ·
Refer to
List A. 18. 180 Cooper. ·
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will not happen. 180 Cooper will be feeder. |
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25 Cartier |
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Wanted two
more spots ·
No spare
spot on street ·
Refer to
List A. 18. 180 Cooper ·
Phil to
provide design alternatives for 180 Cooper. ·
Large
private parking lot near-by possibility of
space availability (Hanif) |
List C - Low Probability for Changes or Additions - 2 - |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
25. |
Pearson Building – from King Edward to
the top of the Stand |
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Need turning lane ·
Need access to bridge ·
Reconstruction within next two years ·
Related to #40, 111 Sussex – (attachment
D) |
List D – Market Area
Review |
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Item # |
Taxi Stand |
Start Date |
Finish Date |
Comments |
23. |
Bare Fax – York Street |
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Looking for temporary solution ·
EMS & Taxi Concerns ·
Recognized by city as urgent requirement ·
Troy
to investigate temporary solution |
24. |
47 York |
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Part of Market Study |
26. |
Clarence and Dalhousie - possibility of 2
spaces either West side of Dalhousie or North of Clarence or on either side
of Clarence West of Dalhousie. |
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Troy will examine temporary use of “No Parking” zones. ·
York North side of Byward ·
York South side of William ·
York East of Sussex ·
George South side of Bay |
27. |
York at Byward |
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Possible use of “No Parking” zones |
32. |
George Street – In front of Bay (Back
door to Bay) |
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Removed a 3 – 4 car stand ·
Reinstate requested ·
Part of Market Study ·
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Upcoming
Sub-Committee Taxi Stand Meetings:
1. Start at #37 of
list. Continue to review Taxi
Stand List. Document reasons for acceptance
or decline. Place in list A, B or C or
D.
2003
Considerations
1. Review consultation/criteria process - requires streamlining.
Example: Allow taxi stands during rush
hour. Some taxi stands are closed during
peak traffic.
2. Official
Transportation Master Plan - Taxi’s are seen as a supplement to Transit. Taxi’s should be given official
Transportation Status along with OC Transpo, Light Rail. Escalation of Taxi status required. Letter from TAC to Trasport required. Representation from TAC at Transportation
Meetings required.
Mike McDermott, Chairman, TAC
to draft letter.
3. Consider forming new
sub-committee for Bus Lane/Taxi Lane issue.
Abdulatif Madi, Airport wishes to join.
Abd.madi@sympatico.ca 761-8333.
4. 29.
New City Hall – List A: Create two spots on the Lisgar St. entrance. –
Private Property – Letter from Chairman, TAC Requesting space.
31.
Museums – List B: Private
Property/ Federal Land. Letter from
TAC to Heritage Canada/Public works requesting permanent stands. - Mike
McDermott, Chairman, TAC to draft
letter of introduction.
36. Bank Street, Glebe Lansdowne Park Area - verify if this is the same as
#21
Civic Centre List B. (remove duplicate)
Attachment A:
1/2
Attachment A: 2/2
Original list created by Tony El-Ghazal, September 9, 2002, # 1 - 31
Additions submitted November 7, 2002, # 32 - 36
Additions submitted January 10,
2003. #37 - 38.
Additions submitted February 7, 2003.
#39 – 40
Additions submitted March 14, 2003 #41 – 42 – (Shaheed)
ATTACHMENT B
NOTICE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
TEMPORARY RIDEAU
STREET TAXI STANDS ON LOADING ZONE BAYS
The Taxi Advisory Committee, working together with City
By-law and City Enforcement Officers, has now sought approval for six (6) TEMPORARY
TAXI STANDS at separate locations on Rideau Street between Sussex Street
(Colonel By Drive) and Cumberland Street.
These stands are clearly marked on the map below.
MAP
INSERTED HERE
These temporary stands are NOT marked as Taxi Stands,
and are located at LOADING ZONES, and will continue to be sign posted as
“Loading Zones”. Each Loading Zone will
only be allowed to accommodate ONE taxicab at a time. A single taxicab may wait on one of these
loading zones as if it were occupying a taxi stand for an indefinite period of
time (except under practical circumstances where a transport vehicle needs the
loading zone for that purpose). Taxicabs
parked or waiting in any other unauthorized area along Rideau Street will
continue to be fined in accordance with the law. This arrangement will conclude once studies for a permanent
stand for Rideau Street are completed, and a long-term solution is in
place. We congratulate the TAC and City
officials in achieving this arrangement for all Ottawa drivers.
Hanif Patni
ATTACHMENT C.
Page 1/2
To: Taxi Stand Sub-Committee
General Managers, Coventry
Connections
From: Hanif Patni
Date: 13th of March,
2003
Subject: Congress Centre meeting
with the Chairperson
At
the suggestion of the sub-committee, I arranged an informal meeting with Jackie
Holtzman, Chairperson of the Congress Centre to discuss the issues around the
need for a taxi stand at that facility.
Background
Blue
Line Taxi was informed last year that the Congress Centre will no longer make
the space in its front entrance. As a
result, the taxicabs have been parking on Daley Street (#38 ' on our
list). There is no authorized taxi
stand on the side of Daley Street that abuts the Congress Centre (#39). In order to cover that work, the illegally
parked taxicab has to make a dangerous “U-turn” and drive a circuitous route to
get to the front entrance.
Official Reasons for eliminating the
Taxi Stand
The
drivers kept their car engines on to keep warm in the winter – causing an
emissions problem.
The
drivers congregated in that covered area for discussions.
The
drivers did not move their cabs when required for loading or other purposes.
The Position of the Company
There
are ways to mitigate such concerns including temporary suspensions of drivers.
ATTACHMENT
C. Page 2/2
The Optics and Perception of Union and
Drivers
Mr.
Wayne French, who used to be General Manager at Blue Line Taxi, sits on the
Board of Directors of the Congress Centre.
Mr. French was relieved of his employment early last year. There is a perception of Blue Line Drivers
that the Congress Centre has responded with such a harsh decision due to Mr.
French’s departure. While it maybe
unfounded, and never stated or implied by Coventry, the optics behind the
decision of the Congress Centre do not look good for it.
The Obligations
It
is the view of the company and the sub-committee that the Congress Centre may
have a legal obligation to provide for a taxi stand. Furthermore, even if there is no legal obligation, there is an
implied fiduciary duty for such an operation to make some accommodation for
taxicabs – and not to force the company to have its cabs parked illegally on
the street.
Purpose of the Meeting
To
understand the reasons behind the decision and persuade the Congress Centre to
reconsider.
Result
Ms.
Holtzman was most forthright and very helpful in our informal meeting. As it was a private discussion, I would
prefer not to minute our discussion.
The
Congress Centre is attempting to place a bid for a new enhanced and larger
convention facility. Any future
building would accommodate taxicab stands.
As for the present, this may be discussed by the board, but no
commitment was sought or provided.
Recommendation
We
would like to recommend that city officers continue to investigate the legal
position of the Congress Centre.
Best
Regards,
Hanif
Patni
Memorandum
To: Mr. Hanif Patni
CC: T.A.C.
From: Guy Oweis
Date: 2003-05-12
Re: Taxi stand @ 111 Sussex Dr
The issue at hand is providing 111 Sussex Drive with an efficient taxi service.
On Monday March 4, Hanif Patni, Adele Delcorde & I had the pleasure of meeting with Diana Lyons, the Property and Facility Manager for Public Works Canada at this location. The concern that was brought to our attention is the non existence of a taxi stand at 111 Sussex.
In order to get a taxi, the staff & guests of 111 Sussex must walk across the street to the N.R.C. taxi stand, which is one block away. This poses a safety issue. Due to construction commencing on the Sussex Bridge and the renovation of 111 Sussex, which is estimated to be completed by the fall of 2005, a permanent solution is not presently possible.
Our temporary solution is as follows:
· All calls will go out as a message to the entire fleet, which means the closest car will get the job, making it a faster and safer service.
· Installation of a direct line to Blue Line Taxi in the lobby of 111 Sussex.
Once construction is complete, a new four or five car taxi stand will be created in front of the building, thereby permanently solving the problem.
Guy Oweis
Assistance Manager Taxi Operation